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Arts & Humanities: Genealogy: “Question: Why do people not like it when Whites claim Native American ancestry?” plus 5 more

Arts & Humanities: Genealogy: “Question: Why do people not like it when Whites claim Native American ancestry?” plus 5 more


Question: Why do people not like it when Whites claim Native American ancestry?

Posted: 02 Jan 2016 01:44 PM PST

Because being native American isn't something you "have in you". You may have ancestors from native tribes, but there is nothing remotely native about you, personally. No one cares what you look like, and please tell me what is the "native way of living"? Do you live in a seaside fishing community? Are you a sheep rancher? There are 566 entirely different "native ways of living". And the current "native way of living" is still living traditionally while in the mainstream world.

If you aren't part of a native community and culture, then it is wrong to claim to be "part indian" as millions of non-native people (both white and black) often do. It is an attempt to misrepresent native people, and usurp our own identity.

As Sherman Alexie said- " In the Great American Indian novel, when it is finally written,

all of the white people will be Indians and all of the Indians will be ghosts."

In other words, when you speak, claiming to be indian, it silences our own voices.

Question: Ancestor missing??? Help?

Posted: 02 Jan 2016 10:09 AM PST

Hi everyone, i need help with researching my ancestor, Rachel Johnson. I want to trace her back to 1880 and 1870, but i only found her in the 1900 census and up. Here is her census records. I have been trying really hard for a while and used marriage certificates to help me but there was no luck in finding her, even with her maiden name. And also, showing from the 1910 census record, was she really a mixed race(Mulatto), or was it just an error made by the census taker. Because everyone else except one family from South Carolina and mine, were listed as black.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MKVN-NMT (1910)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MDXB-ZMT (1920)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XMLG-3VC (1930)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M365-RQD (1900)

Question: ANCESTRY.COM OR 23ANDME. WHICH IS BETTER PLEASE????? WHICH IS MORE POPULAR, MORE ACCURATE ETC???

Posted: 02 Jan 2016 02:57 AM PST

The one that has the population samples that best match your ancestry.
There is no way we or even you can know that. They use the Autosomal DNA along with the X. There are no Haplogroups with this type of testing and the only thing they can do is match you with population samples in their database. So if one doesn't have or is deficient in certain population samples another has and vice versa, the results will not be same. It has been said if you go back to the same company, say a year later, the results might be different as by then they might have obtained other population samples that best match your ancestry.

Let me explain about DNA testing. I know this is lengthy. You have 46 chromosomes and there are 4 types of DNA.

You have 2 sex chromosomes. If you are a male you got Y from your father and X from your mother. Normally females get X from both their father and their mother.

Then you have 44 Autosomes. It is what most of your DNA is and it is the DNA that determines whether you have blue or brown dyes, dark or light hair, your height genetically and other issues such as alleles for health issues. You got Autosomal 50-50 from both parents but when your parents passed on the Autosomal they received from their parents to you it went through "meoisis" where it was randomly jumbled and recombined. So while you go 50% from your mother's side and 50% from your father's, there usually will be a bias in what you inherited from grandmother and grandfather on both sides of the family. In other words you could have inherited anywhere from 0 to 50% from any one grandparent. The gap usually isn't that big but can be. How you inherited any bias will not be how your siblings inherited it unless you have an identical twin.

Mitochondrial is not a chromosme but in the connective tissues outside your cells. Both males and females get Mitochondrial only from their mother. It goes back to your mother, her mother, her mother etc.

For years people have used Y & Mitochondrial testing in genealogy and with each they will assign a person to a Haplogroup and show them the origin of their ancestor going pretty far back. However, if you are a male you got each from only one person in each generation you go back. Get back to your 32 great great great grandparents and if you had both tested 30 of them will not be included in the results. If you are a female you normally only got Mitochondrial from only one person in each generation you go back. Get back to your 32 great great great grandparents and 31 of them will be excluded from the results.

Also the X that inherited from the mother is a little different for males. Females get it in the direct maternal line from mother to maternal grandmother etc. However, males get it from his mother but she got X from both her mother and her father. If you are a male whose X did you get??? Your maternal grandmother's or your maternal grandfather's??
No definite pattern and it can differ among brothers who share the same mother.

So if you and a full sibling were tested by the same company at the same time, the results no doubt will vary. Example: You could have received more Scandinavian Autosomal from a Swedish, Norwegian, Danish or Finnish grandmother and your brother or sister might have received more Slavic Autosomal from a Polish, Czech or Lithuanian grandmother.

Now the real way any genealogy test can be helpful, whether Y, X, Autosomal or Mitochondrial is if the company you choose has cousins of yours going back several generation in their database and if they are allowed to notify you of those cousins and you make contact with them and you and they are involved in traditional genealogy work using documents/records then you can collaborate information with them. You might have discovered ancestors they haven't and they might have discovered ancestors you haven't.

The 3 most recommended companies are 23andme, FamilyTreeDNA, and Ancestry.Com. National Geographic has also been recommended but I understand FamilyTreeDNA does the testing for National Geographic. If I had the funds I would have all 3 companies test mine. I am just that curious and would be grateful to make contact when any, say, 4th cousins 2 times removed and find out what they have.

Question: ANCESTRY.COM: HAS ANYONE TAKN A DNA/ETHNICITY/ANCESTRY TEST FROM ANCESTRY.COM? WOULD YOU LIKE TO IF YOU WANT TO KNOW YOUR ETHNICITY?????

Posted: 02 Jan 2016 02:48 AM PST

I have taken a DNA test with Centrillion Bioscience's Tribecode (a new company whose test opened late 2014), 23andme, Family Tree DNA, DNA Diagnostics Center's Ancestry *BY* DNA, *AND* the popular Ancestry.com's AncestryDNA.

I have confirmed genetic health risks for certain cancers like colorectal cancer (you have to upload your raw data to a site called Promethease), that definitely do run on both sides of my family, and I have found some pretty close relatives that I wasn't aware existed.
So for those parts of the test, it IS reasonably accurate, and they make the test worth doing.

As for the ethnicity part, which is the part that most people only know about when it comes to these tests, there is DEFINITELY room for improvement.
On this part of your question:
"HAVE THESE SCIENTIST GONE TO EVERY COUNTRY AND ISLANDS OF THE EARTH AND TESTED THE GENES OF THE POPULATIONS FOR EVERY COUNTRY??????????"

The answer is absolutely not. There is very good sampling for Northwestern and Southern Europeans, but for everyone else, there is still very inadequate reference sampling.

And it seems like there hasn't been ANY advancements in reference population sampling collection in more than a few YEARS now,

Hopefully this will finally change in the not too distant future, but even then there still will be a lot of populations like Pacific Islanders, Native Americans, and a very large portion of Africans for whom there is either still very inadequate sampling or absolutely no sampling at all.

However, the test is still worth doing for the health and relatives matching, and if there finally are any updates to the ethnicity, the ethnicity results will automatically be readjusted without you having to spend additional money or submit a new sample.

Question: My grandfather born 1892 margarito Velasco i,m grand son do we belong to PeQuot indian tribe donvelasco@sbcglobal.net?

Posted: 01 Jan 2016 10:16 PM PST

Here are some possibilities, from the 1930 Mexico National Census (in Spanish). Since the Pequots were in Massachusetts, it seems unlikely you belong.

Name: Margarito Velasco
Birth: abt 1890 - Guerrero
Residence: 15 may. 1930 - Huispa, Pedro Ascencio Alquisiras, Guerrero

Name: Margarito Velasco
Birth: abt 1891 - Veracruz De Ignacio De La Llave
Residence: 15 may. 1930 - Veracruz, Veracruz, Veracruz

Name: Margarito Velasco
Birth: abt 1893 - Oaxaca
Residence: 15 may. 1930 - Santa Lucía Del Camino, Santa Lucia del Camino, Oaxaca

Name: Margarito Velasco
Birth: abt 1894 - Oaxaca
Residence: 15 may. 1930 - Asunción Nochixtlán, Asunción Nochixtlán, Oaxaca

Question: 23and me ancestry markers?

Posted: 01 Jan 2016 08:46 PM PST

Hi,

The dark yellow indicates South East Asian. However, there are numbers next to it. What do the numbers mean? On line 2 there is a little yellow. On line 6, it's a little bigger

What does this mean? ALSO, is South East Asian Indonesia?

Thanks

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