Arts & Humanities: Genealogy: “Question: My Great Great Great Grandfather s Brother had a son, what relation is he to me?” plus 5 more |
- Question: My Great Great Great Grandfather s Brother had a son, what relation is he to me?
- Question: Is there a one best source from which to obtain genealogical ancestry? By that I mean Asian, African etc?
- Question: Ancestry dot com is amazing! I wonder if a 1st grade genetic analysis of every child in American would help us confront bigotry?
- Question: What is a good DNA test for Native American ancestry?
- Question: A question about my genealogy?
- Question: Can DNA tests show which specific countries you originate from?
| Question: My Great Great Great Grandfather s Brother had a son, what relation is he to me? Posted: 27 Dec 2015 06:32 PM PST Generation 1: 3rd GGF & Brother = brothers Generation 2: Your 2nd great grandparent & SiQ (Son in Question) = 1st cousins Generation 3: Your 1st great grandparent & SiQ = 1st cousins once removed Generation 4: Your grandparent & SiQ = 1st cousins twice removed Generation 5: Your parent & SiQ = 1st cousins 3 times removed Generation 6: You & SiQ = 1st cousins 4 times removed "Removed" means "generations apart" in cousins.  |
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| Question: What is a good DNA test for Native American ancestry? Posted: 26 Dec 2015 10:21 PM PST Native American ancestry can show up on DNA tests but cannot identify the specific tribe. Therefore the tribes do not accept them for tribal membership. The type of tests you want are the ones that use Autosomal DNA along with the X. It is more complicated than the Y & Mitochondrial testiing that has been used for years. Y & Mitochondrial are respected as being very exact. However, if you are a male you get each from only one person in each generation you go back. If you are a female you normally got Mitochondrial from only one person in each generation you go back. Example: Get back to your 32 great great great grandparents and if you are a male 30 of them will be excluded and if you are a female 31 of them will be excluded from the results. Autosomal is what most of your DNA is and whether you are male or female, you got it 50-50 from both parents but not necessarily 25% from each of your 4 grandparents. The reason why when your parents passed on the Autosomal they received from their parents to you it went through "meoisis" where it was randomly jumbled and recombined. So while you got 50% from your mother's side and 50'% from your father's, there usually will be a bias in what you inherited from grandmother and grandfather on both sides of the family. In other words you could have inherited anywhere from 0 to 50% from any one grandparent. How you inherited any bias will not be how your siblings inherited it unless you have an identical twin. The X is different for men. For females a person gets its in the direct maternal line, from her mother, her maternal grandmother, her maternal grandmother's mother etc. The same way she gets her Mitochondrial. No spouses included. She also gets X from her father. For a male he gets X from his mother but she gets X from both her mother and her father. So if you are a male, whose X did you get? Your maternal grandmother's or your maternal grandfather's. No definite pattern and it can differ among brothers who share the same mother. So if you and a full sibling were tested by the same company at the same time, the results will not be the same. You might have received more Scandinavian Autosomal from a Norwegian grandfather and your brother or sister might have received more Slavic Autosomal from a Polish grandmother. Also it has been reported if you go to more than one company to have this overall testing done the results will not be exact. The reason why the only thing companies can do is match you with population samples in their database. So if one doesn't have or is deficient in certain population samples another has and vice versa, the results will not be the same. Which is the best company to use. The one that has the population samples that best match your ancestry and there is no way we or even you can know that. The most recommended companies are 23andme, FamilyTreeDNA and Ancestry.Com. I feel DNA testing in isolation of traditional genealogy work is a big waste of money. One way it can be helpful is if you are into traditional genealogy using documents/records and if the company you choose has cousins of yours going back several generations in their database and if they are allowed to notify you of those cousins and they are also into traditional genealogy work, then you can collaborate your information with them. You might have discovered things they haven't and they might have discovered things you haven't. One way to find native ancestors is if you find an ancestor on one of the rolls like the Dawes Rolls or the Cooper Rolls. Also censuses will indicate if a person is an "Indian" or not. However, you have to start going back starting with yourself one generation at a time and finding out who your ancestors were. Anytime you wish to do this, just put in the Search of Yahoo Answers "how to find my family tree" or "how to know my genealogy" or anything like that and you will get a lot of good answers on how to trace your ancestry. I might add you don't get blood from your ancestors. You get DNA. Your blood contains your DNA but so does your bones, your hair, your skin, pretty much all your body tissues and fluids. Genealogy testing companies use saliva. The terms "blood related" and "blood lines" are still used in genealogy but they came into being before people knew anything about genes and DNA. They are not scientific terms. There is no such thing as Irish blood, German blood, Native American blood, English blood, Italian blood etc. You don't have your parents' blood. You have your own blood and even your blood type can be different than both parents. |
| Question: A question about my genealogy? Posted: 26 Dec 2015 08:48 PM PST By "Hebrew origin names" do you mean they had names from the Bible such as Adam, Daniel, Sarah, etc.? If so, then no: A LOT of first names were taken up by a lot of cultures because they took up religions originating from that area. A lot of people just don't realize how many names we use to this day are Hebraic, as their origins in the Bible or from the Hebrew language aren't as obvious like Elizabeth for example. Though, it was embarrassing for a Latino person I know who thought something similar because she had an uncle named Israel, that she could've been Jewish. So, no, if you mean first names then you really can't base that kind of origin off of that. The exception is if their names were notably Hebrew or Yiddish in how they kept the spelling or pronunciation. Much like how Arabs and Muslims write Abraham "Ibrahim", Jews would keep Abraham as Avraham, Rebecca as Rivka, or Moses as Moshe. IF you have ancestors with certain spellings of first names, then perhaps. If you mean last names, then keep in mind that only a few are truly Hebraic. The concept of a surname wasn't that popular when the Jews were sent into a Diaspora, and thus many were given names that reflected the cultures they lived next to at the time. That's why we (Americans, at least) tend to recognize a lot of Germanic surnames as "Jewish sounding", or certain Slavic ones (for example, those ending in -sky) as Jewish as well. A few are notably Hebraic, for example Levi or Cohen, or expressions of Hebraic roots such as Meyer or Meir. If you have something uniquely Hebrew then perhaps you have Middle Eastern roots. Otherwise, I wouldn't expect it unless it's another kind of Semitic root. |
| Question: Can DNA tests show which specific countries you originate from? Posted: 26 Dec 2015 07:57 PM PST No, one thing there is no such thing as national, ethnic or even racial purity. Countries conquered and invaded others. Boundaries have been changed and when all this happened the original population didn't get up and move. No doubt they didn't have border guards at every moutain pass and people didn't always marry within their own nation. Let me give you an explanation as to what you would be buying if you had your DNA tested so you can better understand any results. You have 46 chromosomes and there are 4 types of DNA. Two of your chromosomes are sex chromosomes. If you are a male you got Y from your father and X from your mother. If you are a female you normally would have gotten X from both father and mother. Then the other 44 chromosomes are your Autosomes. You got Autosomal 50-50 from both parents, but not necessarily 25% from each of your 4 grandparents. The reason why when your parents passed on the Autosomal they received from their parents to you it went through "meoisis" where it was randomly jumbled and recombined. So while you got 50% from your mother's side and 50% from your father's, there usually will be a bias in what you inherited from grandmother and grandfather on both sides of the family. In other words you could have inherited anywhere from 0 to 50% from any one grandparent. How you inherited any bias will not be how your siblings inherited it unless you have an identical twin. The other DNA, Mitochondrial, is not a chromsome but in the connective tissues outside your cells. Both males and females get Mitochondrial only from their mother. For many years people have used Y & Mitochondrial testing in genealogy and with each they assign a person to a Haplgroup and show them the origin of ancestry going pretty far back in time.The results of this type of testing is respected as being pretty much accurate. The only thing if you are a male you got each from only one person in each generation you go back. Get back to your 32 great great great grandparents and 30 of them will be excluded from the results. If you are a female and got only Mitochondrial 31 of them will be excluded from the results/ For the overall testing they use Autosomal along with the X and that is more complicated. If you and a full siblings were tested by the same company at the same time the results will vary. That is for example, you might have received more Scandinavian Autosomal from a Norwegian grandfather and your brother or sister might have received more Slavic Autosomal from a Czech grandmother. The X for males is different also. A female gets x in her direct female line. However, a male gets x from his mother and she got X from both her father and her mother. So if you are a male, whose X did you get? Your maternal grandmother's or your maternal grandfather's. No definite pattern and this can differ among males who share the same mother. It has been reported if you have more than one company do this type of testing, the results will vary. That is because there are no Haplogroups with Autosomal and the only thing companies can do is match you with population samples in their database. So if one doesn't have or is deficicient in certain population samples another has and vice versa, naturally the results will not be the same. So the best company to use is the one that has the population samples that best match your ancestry and there is no way we or even you can know that. The way genealogy DNA testing can be helpful is if you are into traditional genealogy research using documents/records and the company you choose has cousinis of your going back several generations in their database and they are allowed to notify you of those cousins and you make contact with them and they are also into traditional genealogy research, you can collaborate information with them. You might have discovered things they haven't and they might have discovered things you haven't. I feel in isolation of traditional genealogy work DNA tests really aren't that useful. |
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